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Gavin Horner – Intelligence vs evidence from a law enforcement officer’s perspective

Episode 107 – Phil Gurski talks about terrorism and evidence with 30-year Toronto police veteran Gavin Horner.

When it comes to stopping terrorism all information should be used, right? It is not as simple as that.

In order to charge a potential wrongdoer the data must be in the form of evidence, not intelligence. Borealis talks about these issues with 30-year Toronto police veteran Gavin Horner.

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About my guest Gavin Horner

Gavin Horner is a licenced Private Investigator for the province of Ontario. He works primarily in the Greater Toronto Area. He retired after 32½ years with the Toronto Police Service.

Most of that time was spent as an investigator, including:

  • Homicide Squad,
  • Gun & Gang Task Force,
  • Organized Crime – Major Project Section, one of the lead investigators on multiple Organized Crime wiretap cases,
  • Provincial Anti-Terrorism Section, criminal intelligence side of terrorism files,
  • Intelligence – Operations Section.

He retired as a Detective Sergeant and managed the Operations Section at Intelligence. The unit conducted investigations and intelligence probes relating to Organized Crime members and groups.

About the host Phil Gurski
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Phil Gurski is the President and CEO of Borealis Threat and Risk Consulting Ltd. and Programme Director for the Security, Economics and Technology (SET) hub at the University of Ottawa’s Professional Development Institute (PDI). He worked as a senior strategic analyst at CSIS (Canadian Security Intelligence Service) from 2001-2015, specializing in violent Islamist-inspired homegrown terrorism and radicalisation.


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By Phil Gurski

Phil Gurski is the President and CEO of Borealis Threat and Risk Consulting Ltd. and Director of the National Security programme at the University of Ottawa’s Professional Development Institute (PDI). Phil is a 32-year veteran of CSE and CSIS and the author of six books on terrorism.

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