Why do people join white supremacist/new-Nazi movements? Why do they get out?
Tony McAleer spent 15 years in the white supremacist and neo-nazi movements starting as a skinhead and evolving to leadership positions and was instrumental in ushering in the internet building one of the first white supremacist websites for Resistance Records in the mid 90’s.
Tony’s expertise is gleaned from receiving over a thousand hours of one on one and group counseling to understand his own process. Tony has spent countless hours coaching and mentoring change in others and is a certified Life Coach.
Tony is featured in the full length documentary Healing From Hate: “Battle For The Soul Of A Nation”
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About my guest Tony McAleer
Tony has been involved in Life After Hate since its inception in 2011 and served as Executive Director from 2013-2017 while Life After Hate developed its online support groups and the EXIT USA program (based on EXIT Sweden’s model). In 2017 he became Board Chair until his departure in December 2019.
Tony has worked closely informing law enforcement and government from Attorney Generals to senior staff at the Department of Homeland Security. Tony was recently at the Paris Summit for the Christchurch Call with the Prime Minister of New Zealand, and supporting Government and Law enforcement in Victoria, Australia helping them grapple with the rising problem of violent white supremacist groups.
About the host Phil Gurski
Phil Gurski is the President and CEO of Borealis Threat and Risk Consulting Ltd. and Programme Director for the Security, Economics and Technology (SET) hub at the University of Ottawa’s Professional Development Institute (PDI). He worked as a senior strategic analyst at CSIS (Canadian Security Intelligence Service) from 2001-2015, specializing in violent Islamist-inspired homegrown terrorism and radicalisation.
From 1983 to 2001 he was employed as a senior multilingual analyst at Communications Security Establishment (CSE – Canada’s signals intelligence agency), specialising in the Middle East.
The Cure for Hate
A Former White Supremacist’s Journey from Violent Extremism to Radical Compassion
How does an affluent, middle-class, private-school-attending son of a doctor end up at the Aryan Nations compound in Idaho, falling in with and then recruiting for some of the most notorious neo-Nazi groups in Canada and the United States?
Listen to more episodes:
Episode 115 – Phil talks with NSA veteran linguist Mark Ericson on these matters.
Episode 114 – Borealis talks with veteran FBI agent Brig Barker about his years helping to prevent terrorist attacks.
Episode 113 – What is the world of CVE (Countering Violent Extremism) all about? What is the reality of all this?